OAK GROVE HOTSHOT HISTORY

The Oak Grove facility was started as a Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) camp, Company 903, Forest Number-133, May 16th., 1933. The land belonged to the city of Pasadena and the Forest Service, Angeles National Forest, entered into a long-term lease agreement with the city for $1, to be extend for 99 years.

Originally, the CCC camp buildings were all constructed of wood. The buildings were used as an office, barracks, and for storage space.

With the deactivation of the CCC and the camps in 1942, the Forest Service no longer had a large, organized, firefighting workforce. The location was transitioned into the Arroyo Seco Ranger District headquarters and fire station. For many years, the facilities were tents that supplied the barracks, and mess hall.

At some point between the years 1950 and 1954, the Forest Service secured seven small military surplus, four person-sleeping quarters. These units were made of plywood, painted military green, and were used for some or all of the crewmembers. These types of structures were often called “flappers” due to a hinged plywood window cover that would “flap” with the wind.

In 1958, there were only four of the seven structures left, and were then being used for storage. The last four military surplus structures were removed sometime around 1960.

The first Hotshot crew on the Angeles National Forest was the Oak Grove Hotshot crew, approve in 1950. Eddie Lundgren, then on the Cleveland N.F., was selected for the position of the first Hotshot Superintendent. In 1950, one of the old wooden CCC barracks was partitioned off and converted into a one bedroom, one bath, residence for Eddie and his wife to live in.

In 1953, the construction of permanent facilities was started. These buildings were made using concrete block instead of plywood and canvas. Nappy Martin, Field Engineer in charge, was using force account personnel for the construction of the buildings. However, sometime during that summer, the local masonry labor union found out that the Forest Service was constructing their own buildings and made a complaint about the Forest Service using force account labor. The union was successful in getting the Forest Service to stop the force account work.

Shortly afterword, construction of the new facilities was resumed with the union workers. Union labor completed construction of the three barracks buildings. All of the structures were constructed using cinder block.

Foundation construction




In 1957, the Superintendents house was constructed, there were no additional buildings built during the remaining life of the station. However, there were three trailer sites constructed for Forest Service personnel to rent and live on. Fire crew supervisors used most of these sites.

Following the devastating flood of 1934, the Los Angeles River Flood Prevention Act of 1936 was enacted by the U.S. Congress to build flood control channels and structures throughout the Los Angeles basin and along the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains within the L.A. River watershed of the Angeles National Forest. Then again in 1938, one of the worst floods in the history of L.A. County, killing 85 people and creating millions of dollars of damage, the funding was increased and expanded for decades to come. Hence, the creation of certain Forest Service fire suppression crews to protect this valuable watershed in about 1948.

In the early years, two of the Angeles National Forest Hotshot crews were funded using Los Angeles River watershed funds. These crews were Oak Grove and Chilao Hotshots. Los Angeles River watershed funding for the Forest Service Hotshot crews, was to help reduce the size of wildfires, control these fires quickly, and reduce burned watershed acreage. Los Angeles County wanted to reduce the amount of damage during the winter months. The control of wildfires quickly, would also reduce the funding needed for the repair caused by large wildfires. During the mid 70′s, flood control funding for the Hotshot crews stopped, putting additional pressure on the regional fire budget. In the years the Los Angeles River Flood Prevention Act funded the fire crews, the allocation of funds was approximately $1,300,000 each year, for a number of years, and helped construct needed facilities.

YEAR–SUPERINTENDENT
1950-1952 Eddie Lundgren

FOREMAN
Ed Smith
Uyless Worlington
Charles T. Smith
Bob Barker
Ray Guardado Sr.

1953-1956 Harold (Tex) Strange

FOREMAN
Jack Tice
Jack Horton
Norm White
Tommy Brumfield
Tom Deal – pusher
John Stutler – pusher
Jack Lane – pusher

1957 Dave Westfall

FOREMAN
Norm White

1958-1960 Kenneth R. David

FOREMAN
Norm White
Chuck Woods
George Hershberger
Bob Switzer

1961-1962 Tom Ralls

FOREMAN
Larry Boggs
Reid Marks
Bruce Hamp

1963-1964 George Pond

FOREMAN
Reid Marks
John Bowser
Bruce Stevenson

1965-1967 Marty Barrows

FOREMAN
Bill Hall
Don Lopez
Jim Reveley

1967-1971 Larry Boggs

Larry Lang Asst. Supertindent
FOREMAN
Don Lopez
Bill Hall
Henry Martinez
Jim Frakes
Kee Tsosie
Wayne Crowder (detail)

1971 Aug. to Oct. Mal Ellsion

FOREMAN
Chet Cash
Skip Pike

1972-1973 Chet Cash

FOREMAN
Skip Pike
Bob Powers
Mike Paul
Todd Heckert
Duane Casitada

1974-1978 Steve Arney

FOREMAN
Ron Shurney
Louie Mora
Todd Heckert
Bob Serrato – pusher
Mark Sayles – pusher

Brush hook Bullets…

Eddie Lundgren
Eddie came to the Angeles N.F. from the Cleveland N.F. in 1950. Later in 1953, Eddie returned to the Cleveland N.F. to be a tanker foreman (engine captain), however, the Cleveland needed a Superintendent for the Cleveland Hotshots, so Eddie Lundgren was the Cleveland Hotshot Superintendent for two years.

In 1957, Eddie returned to the Angels N.F., Arroyo Seco Ranger District as District FCA (District FMO).

Harold (Tex) Strange

As told by Troy Kurth… Tex replaced Ned Taylor as the District FCA in about July 1958. I know he was Superintendent of the Oak Grove Hotshots for several years. He told me “the crew stayed the same age and he got a year older every year”. I think he got off the crew after 40 years old because he had a heart scare. I know he married Virginia Strange, I do not know her last name. Virginia was the tanker Foreman at Newhall during WWII. Tex complained about going down to Newhall with his tanker crew to mow the lawn cause the Ranger said it was “hard work for the all girl crew” at Newhall, that’s where Tex met her. Tex was courting her while doing telephone repair work on the Arroyo Seco. RD. He would call her on the telephone line while she was at Newhall. She was the District clerk at Valyermo in 1958; she would go to fires on district with Tex. We would pull up with the tanker and Virginia would tell the Foreman where his assignment was.

I think Tex was Foreman or Patrolman at Red Box, maybe 1938. Tex told me about not having any money so he shot a deer and had it hanging in the basement of his house. For some reason some FS type needed to do work on the house and he had to talk him out of going in. I know Ned Taylor and Don Bedibach were CCC, and very close friends. I know who else came from CCC was Fred Tyler, who was also part of that group. Hugh Masterson was referred to as Baby Hughie, as he was part of the group too. Harry Grace was too. Harry was Tanker Foreman at Big Pines station some 30 years before me. He thought that was funny when I went on the Stanislaus where he was Forest Supervisor. The group made fun of Harry when Harry told them he was “going to go to school and come back as their boss and fire their ass”. He did come back as the Angeles Forest FMO, did not fire them, and saved them from being fired on many occasions!

Tex told me about being on the Fish Fork Fire with the crew and some of the crew members found some old miner graves, dug them up, and kept the skulls. Tex fired them when they got back at Oak Grove. Tex did not want ghouls on the crew. He also said that he would fire anybody who did not work good. When they got off the truck at Oak Grove, he would just say, “you’re fired”, gone.

First time I met Tex was at Tie Summit station. We were putting insulation in the ceiling and I was in the ceiling because George Pond said I was the only one that would fit. It was very hot and the crew was supposed to put the insulation through the crawl hole. There was a slack period, still very hot, I looked down through the hole, and this person was standing there looking at me. I told him to get off his dead ass and “get the blank blank insulation up here”. He did. Later on, I was his very good friend. He told me that after leaving Tie Summit, that day, he decided being FMO was not as important as he thought it was. He hired me from the Alaska Jumpers as Patrolman at Tie Summit, then promoted me to Tanker Foreman at Big Pines and then got me a job at the Arroyo Seco RD, with Jack Lane.

Tex was very proud of his driving record. We were working fires on the Valyermo RD, small lightning fires on the desert front, we would arrive and scratch line around them then on to the next, about a dozen or so. We were headed to Valyermo for fuel, and there was Tex driving the road so we dropped down to wave at him as we came around the corner about 20 to 30 feet off the deck we waved at him. Tex, looked up and saw us and drove off into the sage brush, and then he gave us hell for scaring him.

Tex, did like to drink as they all did. He would pick me up at Big Pines and we would go look at the “tractor lines etc., to do that winter/spring or some such” and visit all the old people in Big Rock Creek or Wrightwood, etc. About half way through the afternoon, I would just stay in the bed of the truck until the next stop. Don, Tex and I would have a little Beam at Valyermo in the winter after work and they would fight the old fires… great evenings.

The Fenner Canyon Guard School always ended with a larger training fire than planned. They would select one of the crews to attack the fire and it would escape the hand crew and the fire would get bigger and then the tankers would move in and lay hose, and pick up the fire. The Bosses would say this is why “we need tankers and trained tanker crews”. Well, Tex decided it was probably his turn with Oak Grove. He did some special training with his crew before the fire school. So, the Bosses started the training fire, Tex and the crew was dispatched. Well, the crew jumped out of the trucks, lined up with heir hardhats and then the crew rushed in and swiped their hardhats full of water at the fire one behind the other. They knocked down the fire. Of course, the Bosses said that was wrong because the crew was now out of drinking water. Tex, said “not true”, Tex had doubled up on the canteens on the truck!

Tex, was a real gentleman. The best… I really liked the old guy.

Dave Westfall

In 1958, Dave was promoted on the Arroyo Seco R.D. to the east side ADFMO position. During the 1958 fire season, and while on an initial attack fire assignment on the Gun fire (started by tracer ammo.) Dave was severally burned while scouting the fire. Trying to escape the fire front, and lost in smoke, Dave fell over a rock, landing on his back, and broke his left foot at the ankle joint with only the tendon holding. Dave’s foot was saved, but the result was that the ankle had to be set in a fixed position.

Norm White, was one of the Oak Grove Foreman in 1956 to 1958, later taking the Santa Anita Fire Prevention position, and working for Dave Westfall. Norm White, was with Dave Westfall, when Dave broke his ankle, and was severally burned with 3rd. degree burns over most of his body. Eventually, Norm died of complications while in the hospital. Norm White, was married to Marilyn and at the time of the accident, she was pregnant with their first child.

Ken David

In 1946, Ken worked on the Plumas NF, as a crew supervisor for an inmate crew. He married his wife Annette in 1947 in Utah.

During 1957, Ken was the horse patrol FPT on the Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF, until 1958, when he became the Oak Grove Hotshot Superintendent. Ken transferred to the Long Barn RD, Stanislaus NF, as the District FMO during 1961 to 1965.

In 1966 to 1969, Ken worked at the Job Corp. Center, in Fenner Canyon, Angeles NF, and from there he transferred to the Redding Air Center (1969-72) Shasta Trinity NF, as the Budget Finance Specialist.

In 1971 to 19??, Ken became the Employee Development Specialist on the San Bernardino NF and finished his career on that forest.

Tom Ralls

Tom started his career in 1954, as a TTO on the San Bernardino N.F., then in 1955, he was picked up as PFT as a TTO at the Arcadia station on the Angeles N.F. and then Foreman. In 1956 he was drafted in the U.S. Army

Returning from the U.S. Army in 1958, Tom accepted the Arroyo Seco Canyon Fire Prevention position. From the position as FPT, he became an Oak Grove Hotshot Foreman during the 1959/60 season. Then in 1961 be became the Oak Grove Superintendent. In 1963, he was promoted to the high country Asst. District Fire Management Officer position at the Clear Creek station.

In 1964, Tom, took a detail to the Stanislaus N.F. on the Twain Harte R.D., to establish the first Stanislaus Hotshot crew there. Tom had to plan, supervise, and build a temporary tent camp for the Hotshot crew.

1965 Tom transferred to the Groveland RD, of the Stanislaus N.F. as DFMO.

In 1974, he transferred to the Palomar R.D., Cleveland N.F. as ADFMO and then in 1981 became the DFMO on the Palomar R.D., Cleveland N.F.. In 1985, Tom became the Asst. Forest Fire Management Officer on the Cleveland N.F. until retirement.

George Pond

In September 1954, George started as a crewman at Tie Summit (Mill Creek) station, working for Ralph Johnson. Between 1955-57 George became a TTO (tank truck operator) and then Foreman. He then moved to the Buckhorn station as patrolman and snow-ranger in 1957-59. He then spent two years in the Army and teh returned to the Buckhorn station. In 1961 he moved to Big Pines as AFMO for Tex Strange. In mid 1963, George moved to Oak Grove as Hotshot Superintendent. In 1965 he moved to the Shasta Trinity NF as DFMO and then later in late 1969, he left the Forest Service, and went to work for the California Department of Forestry (CDF), retiring from CDF in 2003.

Larry Boggs

Oak Grove Hotshot crewman Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
Tanker Foreman Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
Oak Grove Hotshot Foreman Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
Smokejumper (detail) Redding, CA
Fire Prevention Technician Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
Chilao HS, Asst. Superintendent Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
Oak Grove Superintendent Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
DFMO Coffee Creek RD, Shasta-T NF
DFMO Greenville RD, Plumas NF

Woody Wood Pecker Logo

The crew logo, at the time, was the Forest Service badge, routed in redwood and no one on the crew like it.

Several of the other Hotshot crews had their own crew logo that was identifiable with their crew.

Larry’s opinion was that the crew should have a logo that would identify the Oak Grove Hotshots and a logo the crew would like. Larry believed the crew logo should be fun and from an organizational stand point, not-controversial.

Below is the 1955 crew truck and crew truck sign. The truck sign was the same logo but was a little larger, and painted on Masonite, colorful but not a logo to be identified with a Hotshot crew.

In June 1967, the crew was working at the Arcadia Fire Warehouse for several weeks performing heavy building maintenance work. Ruth Coe, was the fire warehouse clerk there and Larry discovered that her husband Al Coe, was a cartoonist. Larry asked Ruth if she would ask her husband if he would be willing to draw a logo or mascot for the Oak Grove Hotshot crew.

Al Coe was an artist for the Walter Lantz Production Studio, in Burbank California. Al’s specialty was drawing the cartoon caricature Woody Woodpecker. A few days after asking Ruth Coe about her husband drawing a crew logo, Ruth informed Larry that Al had spoken with Walter Lantz and Mr. Lantz had given Al approval to develop a logo for the Oak Grove Hotshot crew.

Along with the approval to use the Woody Woodpecker caricature, was a letter from Walter Lantz, giving the crew permission to use Woody Woodpecker for anything associated with or for the crew identification. However, Woody Woodpecker was “copyrighted” and only the Oak Grove Hotshot crew was authorized to use the caricature. Any other use other than for the Oak Grove Hotshot crew was prohibited.

In about three weeks, Ruth Coe, brought three proofs of Al’s ideas for the new crew logo. All three proofs were similar but the crew picked the caricature with Woody Woodpecker chasing a fire flame with a shovel out stretched over his head, ready to swat the flame like a fly.

Woody Woodpecker proof

Original Woody Woodpecker proof

The rest is history. A local artist in Pasadena, California, first painted the Woody Woodpecker logo. The logo was round about 30 inches in diameter and installed on the crew truck.

Below is the first Woody Woodpecker truck logo mounted on an Oak Grove Hotshot crew truck. If you look at the bottom of the logo, you can read the “Copyright W.L.P.” required by the Walter Lance Production Studio.

Crew Truck Logo Sign

After the Woody Woodpecker crew truck logo was completed, Larry had patches made for crew vests, shirts, and baseball hats. Larry also had decals made for the crew hard hats.

Woody Patch

After completing the Woody Woodpecker patches and decals, Larry had each logo type with a picture of the crew truck, matted and framed for both Al Coe and Walter Lantz. Ruth was asked if she would have her husband Al, deliver the framed items to Walter Lantz. About a week later, Ruth informed Larry that her husband Al had delivered the framed Woody Woodpecker artwork to Walter Lantz and that Mr. Lantz was so happy with the gift that he placed it on his office wall next to all of the studios awards and commendations. So, one could assume that the Oak Grove Hotshots logo was hung next to a picture of “THE” Woody Woodpecker.

Chet Cash

Tanker Foreman Mt. Baldy RD, Angeles NF
Oak Grove HS Superintendent Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
ADFMO Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
DFMO Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
DFMO Santa Maria RD, Los Padres NF
DFMO Santa Lucia RD, Los Padres NF

Steve Arney

Dalton HS crew member Mt. Baldy RD, Angeles NF
Fire Prevention Mt. Baldy RD, Angeles NF
Tanker Foreman Mt. Baldy RD, Angeles NF
Oak Grove HS Superintendent Arroyo Seco RD, Angeles NF
DFMO Truckee RD, Tahoe NF
Fuels Officer Foresthill RD, Tahoe NF

In 1979, the crew was not funded and was disbanded, making Steve the last Oak Grove Hotshot Superintendent.

Steve accepted a position as a D.F.M.O. on the Truckee Ranger District, Tahoe National Forest.

Miscellaneous

All new JF’s (junior Foresters) as they were referred to, were hired right out of college. JF’s on the Arroyo Seco R.D. were assigned on the Oak Grove Hotshots and tanker (engine) crew at Oak Grove.

In the early years, everyone hired by the Forest Service, was expected to support fire suppression in some capacity. New hires were given the basic fire training by the Hotshot and tanker crew Foreman (Captain). The new foresters were required to participate in all fire training and crew project work. The new JF’s were required to work on fire crews for two years, and at the end of their two years, they were then assigned forester work.

There were two reasons for assigning new foresters to fire crews. First, there was the requirement that everyone support fire suppression. Secondly, the new hires experienced working with crews, supervision, and other duties as assigned.

The assignment caused great anxiety and frustration for some of the newly graduated foresters. The young JF’s felt they had spent 4-5 years in college and fully expected to be assigned a position in forestry and given an office. Because some of the new JF’s were not given forester positions when first hired, some of the new hires quit.

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Crew Stories

The Great Oak Grove Shaving Cream Massacre of 1968
A short work of non-fiction
by
Chuck Grennell

This tale takes place during a time that I was employed on the Oak Grove Hot Shot crew and working in the Angeles National Forest. As the reader of this work might imagine, when a bunch of eighteen-year-olds work and are housed together for a summer, there would be more than a few practical jokes played. This story is the account of one such event. It is specifically chosen (and slightly modified) for its “G” rating. Not everything that happened that summer can be revealed, even after the passage of forty four years.

This is chronicled with some speculation and conjecture that assumes information that is not in the possession of the author. The author would therefore not be in a position to testify, under oath, to all of the details that will be told here. This is, however, chiefly intended to be non-fiction.

The plot was hatched by those two well-known practical jokers Frank Hacker and Paul Evens. They were always known as “Hacker and Evens.” Most of the crew members were called by their last names; that part wasn’t unusual. The unusual part was that their names were perpetually intertwined, linked and paired. They were seldom referred to singly. When their names came up, it was pretty much always as a duo and pretty much always Frank’s name first and Paul’s name second.

I don’t know which one of the two came up with this plan; I’m fairly sure that they both put their minds to it with a will. In the final analysis, they seemed equally at the bottom of the attack.

The Great Oak Grove Shaving Cream Massacre occurred late one night, in the summer of 1968, after the mandatory lights-out time. As I recall that would have been after 10:00 Post Meridian. There were three different wings to the barracks that we all shared. Frank and Paul were together in a smaller wing. The rest of us were spread out in the two larger wings of the building. My associates and I were in the middle barracks wing and either asleep or trying to get there when this all happened.

Without warning the lights in our wing suddenly came on. There stood Hacker and Evens in their boxer shorts. They were each holding a can of Barbasol shaving cream in both hands. And they were both hollering: “Shaving cream fight!” They began running up and down the length of our barracks wing spraying shaving cream on everyone and everything. The reader will easily be able to imagine that they clearly had the advantage in this endeavor. This was partly due to the fact that none of the rest of us had been forewarned about this impending and unwarranted attack. It was sort of the shaving cream version of Pearl Harbor as far as the element of surprise goes. The degree of injury that was inflicted was, of course, considerably less.

The natural reaction of the group under attack was to jump out of bed and try to extract some amount of revenge. The advantage, in this instance, being on the side of the Hacker/Evens team, led to their ability to make good their escape without suffering any retribution at all Or so they thought.

They had apparently worked out most of the details with some degree of precision, including their getaway. They ran off into the night and hid somewhere outside that we never did discover. It turned out that they’d made one small miscalculation in this otherwise brilliant escapade. When they made their egress they had dropped their arsenal on the floor; I suppose that they thought that they might run faster with empty hands. They did run fast and there’s no denying that.

When the posse returned to the barracks, after having given up on finding the shaving cream terrorists, I happened to notice the abandoned cans of shaving cream on the floor of the barracks. An idea came to me that I felt a need to act on. I don’t know that I would have done this without the extreme provocation that had led up to all of this.

I grabbed up all four cans of shaving cream and completely emptied the remaining contents into each of Hacker/Evens’ bunks. I pulled the sheets and blankets back up to the top. I disposed of the empty cans in the bathroom waste basket, so as not to leave any obvious clues behind.

Much, much later that night I knew exactly when they had returned. The rest of the crew did, too. Everyone woke up to hear a very loud chorus of “Oh, no! Oh, crap! Not this!” and other spontaneous utterances that I’ll leave to the imagination of the reader, this story having a “G” rating.

I don’t know that Frank or Paul ever did know who accomplished this successful counterattack. I don’t recall that I ever took credit for it prior to the writing of this story. I am writing this now so that I can send it to Frank’s widow Mrs. Gisela Hacker. I had told her that I’d try to come up with something that I could remember about that summer that I’d spent with the Hacker and Evens duo. Frank passed away way too early. His kids were young and didn’t get normal lifetime to get to know their Dad. I hope that this story will let them know that he had a good (if somewhat unusual) sense of humor. I often think that is one of the most important senses that a person needs to develop. Frank had managed to develop this one early on in life.

Chuck Grennell January 19, 2012

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We need your help

FELLOW CREW MEMBERS, WE NEED YOUR HELP!

Our list of those that have worked on the Oak Grove Hotshot crew is far from complete. Below are names, and in some cases, not complete names of fellow crew members we need contact information for. Please take a minute and look at the list and see if you have any information that will help us find these folks. We want to find them and alert them to the reunion on May 23, 2012.

Todd Heckert, Paul Hogan,
Ron Harper, Keith Humphry,
Victor Ortega, Howard Clearman,
Richard Gettmen, Steve Hassel,
Doug Petrie, Glen Howard,
Art Brunston, Mike Dunn,
Jim Geer, Steve Pock,
Rusty Ramsey, Larry Thomas,
Jim Comer, Gene Kaldhusdal,
Frank Helper, Jerry O’Dell,
Joe Perez, John Alexander,
Larry Humphrey,
Leo Edmo, Roger Richcreek,
Robert Switzer, Otto Heisis,
Dennis Begay, Earl (Skip) Pike,
Tex Strange, Chris Cazinski,
Bill Padinick, Phil Main,
Mike Czamecki, Ed Smith,
Jack Horton, Norm White,
Tommy Brumfield, Tom Deal,
John Stutler, Kenneth R. David,
Bruce Stevenson, Kee Tsosie,
Bob Powers, Dana Crapa,
Dick Cramer, Tom Holden,
Dave Ohlson, Dave Busch,
Richard Reardon, Don Bingham,
Robert Murphy, Chris Paulson,
Don Fritchman, Pat Burgess,
Pat Felde, Rex Johnson,
Donald Glauthier,
Doug Disckson, Vincent Antone,
Allan Fowler, Sam Bennet,
Michael Yow, John Lavato,
Byron Crocker, Calvin Tane,
Ed Hook Tom Zwoa,
Johnny Lewis, Pete Roble,
Bob McDonald, Rodger Duff,
John Waroff, Brett Higbee,
Oscar Martinez, Randy Sewalson (sp),
Bob Slate, Charles T. Smith,
Pete Miller, Bob Taber,
Carl Lannon, Bill Cummings,
Roy Hendria, Jerry Harris,
Lewis Blades, Daryll Norwalk,
Ron Hammond, Ken Vistad,
Mike Gross, Art Romero,
Jim Funk, Paul Hope,
Phil Perkins, Paul Johnson,
Dick Gitman, Danny Bangs,
John Bowman, Tom Dell,
Begay, Chris Hazen,
Lorni Hazen, Phil Seeley,
Dennis Mitchell, Brian Warner,
Mike Pepkey, Shawn Walls,
Mark Closet, Mike Terry,
(?) Shuman, (?) York,
B. Barnard, (?) Robinson,
(?) Alvarez, M. Smith,
W. Poepke, (?) Compos,
Ken Tolen, (?) Ridgeway,
(?) Shoop, (?) Johnson,
K. Burnes, J. O’Malley,
W. Berringer, Frank Hacker,
(?) Evans, Clifford Penny,
Richard Boatwright, Albert “Bobby” Harris,
Denny Ales, Douglas Beck,
Raymond Coker Jr., Howard (The Old Man) Drake,
Ken McCool, “Speedy” Gozales,
Robert E.Begay, Frank Halper,
Don Benda,

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REUNION UPDATE

February 18, 2012

Author of “The Angeles Was Our Home” Norma Rowley, will be at the reunion signing and selling her book. She has great stories of the early history of the Angeles National Forest.

February 18, 2012

We want to thank the following folks who have made generous cash donations to the reunion. Without this kind of support, it would be extremely difficult to put this reunion on.

George Roby ICL/Phos-Check $250
Arrowhead Wildfire 2000, Inc. $150

George Pond $50

Jim Reveley $100

Lynn Biddison $100

Feb. 15, 2012

May 23, 2012 is rapidly approaching and lots of things are happening to meet that goal.
1) All the registration forms for crew members and other interested parties have been mailed out. If you have not received a registration in the mail, one of three things may have happened. a) We have only your email address. b) Your registration is lost in the mail. c) or we got the address wrong. Please contact us using: oghotshot@comcast.net and we will get a registration mailer right out to you.

2) If you plan to go to the reunion, you must register first. No one will be accepted at the door without preregistration.

3) We recommend that if you are booking a hotel for the reunion, that you book at the Embassy Suites. We have set aside a two day, discounted bloc of rooms for the reunion. Embassy Suites will be the location for our social time after the banquet and the night before the reunion, May 22.

4) The registration form includes an order form for memorabilia such as “tee” shirts and hats. We need to get that order in for manufacturing the items, so if you want to wear a shirt or hat at the reunion, you will have it. These items will not be sold at the reunion.

5) Spread the word as we are always looking for former Hotshot crew members as well as interested parties.

6) Former Forest Supervisor and Arroyo Seco RD, District Ranger George Roby, will be our Master of Ceremonies.

7) A helpful item on our blog and a way for you to keep updated with the changes is to subscribe to a system that will update you to any changes made on the site. In the lower right hand corner of the blog is a box that says: “follow”. Click on that and follow the instructions. Now, when changes are made, you will be notified by email, then you can go to the blog and look for the updates such as posts, reunion info.updates, pictures and whatever else we can stuff into it. SEE YOU AT THE REUNION

January 27, 2012
Well we did our best but there is an error on the registration form that is in the mail now. The first page of the form says that the banquet (reunion) will be held on SATURDAY… it will not. The date is May 23, 2012 WEDNESDAY. In the middle of the week. Sorry for any confusion or misunderstanding.

January 24, 2012
Registrations for the Reunion will be in the mail soon so be looking for it. Your envelope will also have further information on the Reunion as well as a return envelope. You will not get the registration envelope unless we have your contact information, so if you do not receive the envelope within the next 10 to 14 days, please email us at: oghotshot@comcast.net

We are attaching a PDF file of the registration form below.
OG Registration Form
January 21, 2012
Reunion registrations are in the mail and you will be getting them soon. If you do not get a registration envelope, we may not have your mailing address. Contact us at: oghotshot@comcast.net

December 5, 2011
Donation Request

In an effort to defer expenses (such as mailing, printing, memorabilia preparation and restrooms) we are going to have a Silent Auction. Anyone that can help us solicit items for the Auction would be greatly appreciated. Some ideas might be a fishing trip, a case of wine, sporting goods, fire memorabilia or anything that you would like to see auctioned off to help the cause. Ask that special person that has a talent for making something unique or someone that has a business with a product that others would find that they just can’t live without. Think about it and I am sure that you can all come up with some great ideas.

Please reply to our email address oghotshot@comcast.net with information on the donated item, it will then be passed on to our activity committee. They will then in turn call you back. We hope that all of you will come through in this effort. If we are able to cover all expenses we will then send the remainder to the Wildland Firefighter Foundation, in the name of the Oak Grove Hotshots.

Thank you so much for your support in the effort to make the Reunion a very special day for all of us.

November 12, 2011

Hey out there… any former Chilao Hotshot crewmember, you and anyone interested in attending the reunion, are cordially invited to join us. There is an effort to find all the Hotshots that worked on the old Arroyo Seco Ranger District. If you worked on the Chilao crew, please contact us using: oghotshot@comcast.net We will then get your information to the Chilao organizers.

MOTEL CORRECTION

Due to our inability to agree to a “financial liability contract” for more than a block of 30 rooms with Embassy Suites, our room rates have gone up. With a two night minimum stay, the room rate is $139 + tax, per night until the block requirement is met. If the 30 night block is sold out, we can add an additional block, if the space is available. Single night accommodations will range from $159 to $179 or depending on what discounts you might have like AAA. By not having a large block room guarantee, it makes it very important to those attending to book now. If something comes up and you cannot make the reunion, you can always cancel the reservation.

Our web page address is:

http://embassysuites.hilton.com/en/es/groups/personalized/L/LAXHDES-XOG-20120522/index.jhtml?WT.mc_id=POG

Our group information is:

Group Name: OAK GROVE HOTSHOT REUNION
Group Code: XOG
Check-in: 22-May-2012
Check-out: 24-May-2012
Hotel Name: Embassy Suites Arcadia-Pasadena Area
Hotel Address: 211 East Huntington Drive
Arcadia, California 91006
Phone Number: 626.445.8525

Embassy Suites is where our “after the banquet social” will be held.

We are sorry if this has caused any confusion or misunderstanding.

WE HAVE A DATE!! MARK ON YOUR CALENDAR MAY 23, 2012, IN ARCADIA DETAILS TO COME

9/6/2011

In researching support for a possible reunion and for utilizing Forest Service facilities, the following email was sent on August 31, 2011, to the Angeles National Forest, Deputy Forest Supervisor, Mr. Marty Dumpus.

Dear Mr. Dumpus.

Gordon Rowley suggested that I email you with my inquiry.

I represent a small group of three (retired) Forest Service employees that are former members of the Oak Grove Hotshot crew. Please visit our blog at: http://oakgrovehotshots.wordpress.com. One of our objectives is to work on the possibility of having a crew reunion during the spring of 2012. Due to the Oak Grove facilities no longer under Forest Service ownership, we would like to know if any facilities at the Supervisors Office could be made available. Such as warehouse #1 or the old mechanical shop building. We are estimating 100+ people for the day and tentatively in the months of May or June.

While we are yet to form an organizing event committee, I know that the group would very much like to have a forest speaker. Is there a possibility that could be arranged?

We are looking forward to hearing your reply.

Steve Arney

Former Superintendent
Oak Grove Hotshots

As of 9/6/20011, we have not heard back from Mr. Dumpus.

On September 4, 2011, the following email was sent to the Angeles National Forest as well as the Regional Office. The email was sent in our behalf by Mike Rogers, former Angeles National Forest Supervisor.

Tom, Mike, Sherry, Jim and Marty,

Hi Tom

As the new kid on the block, here is a Golden Opportunity and an ideal way to rebuild a positive link with past ANF employees and retirees that has been sorely lacking. District Ranger Mike McIntyre has been the sole host over the past few years in supporting these reunions, which have had a big educational and positive morale impact on current employees. The Hot Shot Crews of the Angeles were ground breakers in the early in the early 1950′s and quickly caught the attention of Fire Control in the Region and subsequently, the Washington Office. Their obvious success soon led to the IR Hot Shot Crews we continue to count upon in the National Fire Management Program of today, and it all started on the Angeles with the Oak Grove, Chilao, Dalton and Texas Canyon Hot Shot Crews shortly followed, but never duplicated, by the Los Prietos Hot Shot Crew on the Los Padres NF, the Del Rosa Hot Shot Crew on the San Bernardino NF and the El Cariso Hot Shot Crew on the Cleveland NF (Oak Grove and Chilao were specifically funded by the 1940 Los Angeles River Flood Prevention Act that followed the horrific damage of the 1938 flooding of Los Angeles and environs as were many of the Fire Stations in the Los Angeles River watershed. Employees from these four original hallmark Hot Shot Crews went on to positions of greater responsibility throughout the US Forest Service and to “command” positions in other agencies such as the Los Angeles County Fire Department and the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL Fire). There is a rich history here of commitment, innovation, dedication and success. This indeed a rich and glorious history in need of celebration and reflection, and God know’s we need some good things to celebrate these days. There will be no financial impact to the ANF with the exception of current employees celebration time.

Can you help to make this happen?????

Sincerely,
Mike Rogers
Chilao Hot Shot Crew 1957-1958
West Fork Patrolman 1959
Angeles NF Engineering 1960-1962
Valyermo Ranger District Recreation Asst and Resource Asst. 1968-1974
Angeles NF Fire Management Officer 1977-1981
Angeles NF Forest Supervisor 1990-1999

9/12/2011
OAK GROVE HOTSHOT
REUNION INTEREST QUESTIONAIRE

If you have received this message as a former member of the Oak Grove Hotshots or an interested person, we need your help. For almost two years a small group has been developing a contact list with the objective of restoring the history of one of the original hallmark Hotshot crews.

In addition, an effort has been made to organize a reunion in 2012. Now we need your help with what direction the crew should take. Please take a minute to read and reply to the questions below.

1) Would you attend an Oak Grove Hotshot reunion?

2) What time of year would you prefer? Winter Spring Summer Fall

3) Would you be likely to bring additional guests, if so, how many?

4) Is it important to you to have the reunion in or near the Angeles National Forest?

5) Would you prefer meal/s served at the reunion?

6) Would you prefer the reunion at a hotel or a Forest Service facility?

7) Would you financially support the reunion with a luncheon, a banquet or both type meals?

8) Would you be interested in a bus type tour of State Route Highway 2?

9) Would you support just a one day event, or a two day event with a bus tour?

Please return your reply to: oghotshot@comcast.net
10.18.2011
REUNION
OAK GROVE HOTSHOTS

Our reunion will be held on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 at the Angeles Forest Supervisors Office in Arcadia, California. Starting time is 11:00 a.m. with banquet at 1:00 p.m. Further socializing will be held at the Embassy Suites Arcadia, starting at 5:00 p.m. We have set aside a block of rooms, so make your reservations early using “Oak Grove Hotshot Reunion” at the time of booking. Special room rates will run from $115 + tax for a Double bed to $119 + tax for a King size bed. Watch our web site for more details as they come. http://oakgrovehotshots.wordpress.com or email us at: oghotshot@comcast.net

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PHOTOS

 

1975 Oak Grove Hotshots

1976 Oak Grove Hotshots

Marble-Cone fire 1977

1967 Project work falling tree

L to R Pat Felde, Larry Boggs, Tom Holden, John Alexander, Roger Gamst, unknown

Crew on a fire on the Tahoe NF, 1967

1964 crew responding to a fire

Tanker bay behind Ranger Station 50's

Crew truck 1964

Paul Hope and behind him is John Lovato

Summer of 1964, in Santa Anita Canyon, doing project work

L to R Byron Crocker, Allan Fowler, Cirillio (first name), Donald Glauthier (on shoulders) Doug Dickson and Jim Linfoot.

Doug graduated from Humboldt State in Forest Management in 1965 and was a Lt. in the infantry in Nam, and was killed in a fire fight in 1967. He was a good friend.

Larry Boggs

New-bees with Boggs

Helicopter Training

1955 Constructing a "Flapper" building

Concrete logo now at the Angeles Crest Station

Oct. 1967

L to R Roger Gamst, John Alexander and Don Lopez off loading from DC-3

1967 crew members

L to R Roger Gamst, Don Allison, Dave Bohning, Larry Boggs and Don Lopez

Oct. 1967 Tahoe fire

L to R Roger Gamst, Dave Bohning and Tony Morton

1966 crew on the Mendocino NF, Round Fire

Tom Holden, Calvin Tane, Ed Hook, Tom Zwoa, Johnny Lewis, Pete Roble, Bill Cummings, Brim, Roy Nendria, Jerry Harris, Roger Gamst, Lewis Blades, Daryll Normark, Ron Hammond, Ken Vistad, Sam Bennett, Mike Gross, Art Romero and Jim Funk

Foreman Ron Shurney and crew

1964

L to R Standing, Asst. Foreman Bruce …?; Rex Johnson: Jim Linfoot; Jerry Rice: Donald Glauthier: Doug Dickson; Vincent Antone; Alan Fowler; …? Front row: Sam Bennet; Michael Yow; John Lavato and Byron Crocker

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Back row from left
Tony Morton, Don Allison, Tom Holden, Dave Ohlson, Larry Humphrey, Dave Bohning, Mike Busch, Richard Reardon, Steve Wark, Wayne Crowder Front row kneeling: Don Bingham, Asst. Superintendent Larry Lang, Robert Murphy, Roger Gamst, Chris Paulson, Don Fritchman, Pat Burgess, Pat Felde, John Alexander, Foreman Donald Lopez and Superintendent Larry Boggs

Bob Hewitt 1976

Burning Brush 1976

Ron Shurney showing how it is done 1976

End of season pile burning 1976

Louie Mora and Bob Serrato after water fight 1976

Mike Rohde with his Super Pulaski 1976

One of two new crew trucks 1976

Ord Fire Tonto NF R-3 1976

Old Crew truck 1976

Steve Arney and Mark Sayles Piute Mtn. SQF lightning 1976

Entrance walk to District Office during Santa Ana winds

Grab ass in the barracks 1976

Tex Strange and Nancy Ambler. Jack Tice, married Nancy while he was foreman working for Tex. Nancy was a payroll clerk in the OG office (1954).

Crew of 1957 Front row left to right #3 Harry Antonine #4 Dave Westfall #6 Jack Lane #8 Danny Bangs Second row left to right #2 Otto Hiesig (at time of picture, yard maintenance) #7 Dave Lake (mother tanker driver) #11 Kenneth Ray David Back row left to right #3 John Bowman

Highly recommend this book of early Forest Service history and wildland firefighting

Foreman Jack Tice 1955 made the signs for the new Hotshot trucks

Girl Scouts, Smokey L.A. City Fire Chief and Jack Tice, in front of of the LA City Hall 1957

1975 Fire in the Kern River Wilderness

Dave Maxell Kern River 1975 Hot Shovel

Kern River 1975 Glenn Howard Mr. Sunshine

Oak Grove Hotshot project wall

During the 1959 Gun fire, Dave Westfall, was severally burned while scouting the fire. Trying to escape the fire front, Dave fell over a rock, landing on his back, and broke his left foot at the ankle joint with only the tendon holding. Norm White, was with Dave Westfall, when Dave broke his ankle, and was severally burned with 3rd. degree burns over most of his body. Eventually, Norm died of complications while in the hospital. This picture was taken at the end of the season party in which the Angeles NF, Forest Supervisor, Richard Droege, is presenting Chuck Woods (Oak Grove Foreman) and Jack Tice with a letter of commendation from Regional Forester Charles Connaughton, and a cash award for the part they played in the rescue of Westfall and White. Oak Grove Hotshot, Dick Williamson, and others were also instrumental in the rescue.

Some members of the 1950 crew included Ray Guardado Sr., pictured below the crew sign with dark glasses. The truck was one two or more that carried the crew.

1959 Barracks #3 (Foreman Barracks) Left: Dick Skelton Right: Tom Ralls

Fire School Fenner Canyon 1956 click to open PDF

1950 Newspaper article


Fire above Altadena


Joe Gutierez


Larry Lang


Lightning Fire


Crew hamming it up


Don Lopez


Crew infront of garage


Two man saw training


Getting ready to cut line




Dinner in the messhall


Cutting fire line



Pictures submitted by Joe Gutierez


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Tanker 1-4 1970 crew Back Row LR Wayne Crowder (TTO), Don Allison, and Forman Jerry O'Dell. Front row LR Frank Helper and Joe Perez

Oak Grove Trail Crew 1968/69 L to R Ukn, Skip Pike, Mike Paul (Doughrty), Roger Gamst, Don Gilliland, Wayne Crowder, Jim Linfoot, Wolfgang Tamm, and Buster Klien


The following 19 photos are from a 1968 PACE Magazine.


















Disk Williamson took this picture in 1959, of George Hershberger at Switzer's Campground.

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